the token replacement in your "detailed sequence" doesn't work that way. you should go back an read the clarification in the FAQ (in whichever order you stack olive & the favor, you'll never draw three tokens from the bag for olive).

Thanks for the comment :)

The most important part here is Custom Modifications and the fact that it lets you "reveal a new one".

The FAQ says that you must declare your intentions to use multiple effects that replace a token pull in advance:

1. Declare that you will use Olive McBride to replace the initial token pull with 3 and ignore 1.
2. Use Custom Modifications's once Olive is fully resolved, letting you cancel one token and "reveal a new one".
3. Declare that you will use Favor of the Sun to replace the new token that Custom Modifications would reveal and replace it with a .

As Favor of the Sun is used to replace the token from Custom Modifications and not from the initial pull, it doesn't collide with Olive McBride.

Mind blowing. Thanks!

Took this deck through the fan-made Constellations standalone last night. Holy cow, that weapon is AMAZINGLY powerful. I got the gun, along with Customisations, and Relentless down in turn one, and from there was overkilling everything, generating huge resources in order to refill it. Incredible fun. Thank you!

2. Use Custom Modifications's once Olive is fully resolved, letting you cancel one token and "reveal a new one".

I think if you want to use Custom Modifications on a "single" token you must declare ahead of time which one of Olive's 3 you are using it on (this would be useless for our purposes).

If you choose to fully resolve and reveal Olive's 2 tokens, then they count as one token. So if you choose to replace "a" token, then you have to put back both and redraw. This ever-so-slightly reduces the chances of pulling a bless (with the added token back in the bag), but on the other hand you'll only have one not two which IMO is better overall.

See the first FAQ on Olive McBride's page:

"All of these tokens are considered to be revealed simultaneously, so you are not allowed to reveal the first 2 tokens with Olive, and then decide whether or not to use the statue" (you are not allowed to reveal the first 2 tokens with Olive, and then decide whether or not to use the Custom Modifications) My read is if you're fully resolving Olive, then the 2 tokens count as 1 and must both be replaced - you can't midway decide to use Custom Modifications and partially choose which of the two to replace)

"for the purposes of resolving these types of effects, the 3 tokens revealed from Olive’s ability should be treated as 1 revealed token." FAQ, v.1.3, May 2018

Thanks @arkhamproxy for the comment!

I think (and I've double-checked in the Rules Question of the Mythos Busters' discord) that the main difference with the combo Grotesque Statue + Olive McBride (which caused the FAQ) and the Custom Modifications is the timing.

The former is considering triggers that happen at the same moment: "When you would reveal a chaos token".

Custom Modifications, on the other hand, is "When you reveal". The difference is subtle but IMO crucial: Olive McBride and Grotesque Statue both happen before you reveal the token, and Custom Modifications is after you reveal the token, before resolving any effect.

How I read the FAQ is that the act of pulling 3 tokens is like the act of pulling one. You cannot interrupt this act in the middle and trigger another effect (like the Statue) after pulling 1 or 2 tokens. You have to pull the 3 of them no matter what.
In our case, we reveal the 3 tokens, move on with Olive's ability to ignore and end up with 2 tokens.
And here opens the window for Custom Modifications on "a" chaos token.

At the end of the day, as you also say, replacing both tokens would also be great as it's probably even more chances to pull a . You will often use the Custom Modifications to trigger the Favor of the Sun anyways.

Thank you for taking the time to give a detailed explanation. Yeah, that does make sense about the (subtle but crucial) difference between: "When you would reveal" (before) and "When you reveal" (after).

I read the ruling "the 3 tokens revealed from Olive’s ability should be treated as 1 revealed token"... but I guess the part I misunderstood is the qualifier "for the purposes of resolving these types of effects" - It seems "these types of effects" only refer to when you "would reveal" (it's only treated as 1 token before the reveal)?

But then after the reveal (i.e. "when" revealed) if they're no longer considered 1 token, when you trigger Custom Modifications and target "a" token, then you would pick only one of any multiple revealed tokens.

At any rate, you're right - either way you play that, it's a pretty small difference. Nice idea about combining Olive McBride with Custom Modifications to be able to trigger the Favor of the Sun. Thanks for going into detail with me on this and thank you for your deck guides. They've been fun to read and think about.

Hola, jugando a dos manos, que podríamos cambiar para ayudar un poco investigando al buscador?

Hello Valentin, and thank you for your helpful guides,

I would be interested in knowing what is your take on how Sacred Covenant works with blessed tokens. If you send back a bless token to the bag using Sacred Covenant for a skill check, would you reveal another chaos token?

I've read 2 ways to answer this on the net.

One, and it is my take, says that the bless token is returned to the bag after revealing the token from the bag (step 3), but before resolving it's effect. Therefore there is no token anymore to apply the effect on step 4, so you dont draw another token from the returned-to-bag bless token effect. And as you dont count the modifier either (instruction written on the sacred covenant card itself), therefore you get a 0 modifier skill check result. Which is awesome, let's be honnest.

But I have read a less joyous way of understanding this, saying that even if the bless token is returned to the bag, you have to resolve its effect of drawing another chaos token from the bag. People saying this claim that it is written on Sacred Covenant that you ignore the modifier, and not written to ignore the effect as well. But here again, I dont see why it matters, since you resolve the effect on the next step, when the bless token is back to the bag, and therfore not drawn, and not in play anymore. But there, again, I read people saying that "not in play" status is not applicable to tokens, so you have to resolve the effect even if the bless token is returned to the bag.

What is your take on this, and how do you play Sacred Covenant with bless token? Thank you.

Gun focused Mary felt bad and lacked a lot of versatility, strength, reliability, and required more to setup vs using pivoting and using a Timeworn Brand + Enchant weapon and replacing gun focused cards in the deck for other uses.

@RanulfIK To answer your question about Sacred Covenant, check the FAQ under Sacred Covenant on this website. I will not quote the full response, but to summarize you would fully reveal tokens until all additional reveals are complete. Then, decide if you would like to activate Sacred Covenant to put the blesses back in the chaos bag or allow them to contribute their +2 and be removed from the bag.

@ottoo A deck with Holy Spear would be more powerful for sure. But I think that the firearm upgrade voltron theme and the token tech makes this deck fun. The deck is consistent and reliable enough to finish a campaign with it.